This Week on Another Brother:
In episode #014, The Implausible Ice cream incident, the brothers share what their favorite cartoons were growing up. Get ready for a menagerie of 80’s and 90’s awesomeness! But before that, of course Dragon Ball Z was discussed first! Find out what other cartoons painted their childhoods and formed who they are. And don’t worry, the links below include all of the awesome original intros. Jacob then shares one of his most impressive feats ever. Yes, it involves ice cream. Check out the pictures below!
Episode Links (***Spoiler Alert***):
- Dragon Ball Z AWESOMENESS!
- The original, good Dexter’s Laboratory
- Rockin Swat Kats!
- Josh’s surprising entry, Darkwing Duck. Check it out on Disney+
- Biker Mice from Mars also rock
- Unbeknownst to us, right around the same time we recorded, Ryan Reynolds announced he’s rebooting Bike Mice from Mars!
- Street Sharks confirms that kids shows used to rock a lot more
- TaleSpin is also on Disney+
- The epic Thundercats. It’s pretty dope animation.
- And who could forget Voltron! Defender of the universe
- We promised pictures of the pig’s trough. It’s big. Bigger than you’re thinking. Check out its sheer size. This is right around the time where Jacob started shaking… But there’s always a celebration!
Transcript:
The following transcript was in part created using the Deepgram API:
[00:00:00] This Week on Another Brother
[00:00:24] Another Brother Theme Song
[00:00:42] Stewnerds Segment
Josh: How did we start these normally?
Alex: 1 of us just says, okay, cartoons!
Jacob: Yeah, that’s pretty much how it goes
Josh: great well there it was
Jacob: we’re in. Dragon Ball Z! I said it! I did it first.
Josh: no. all right, nope. pick a new 1.
Jacob: Dexter’s Lab!
Alex: You wanted to do a countdown? I’ve got- I can’t- I can’t do that. I don’t have 1 thing.
Jacob: oh you don’t?
Alex: no, no way.
Jacob: Okay. that’s what- this is way easier than like picking a favorite song for me.
Josh: So we wanted to take a trip down memory lane and remember our favorite cartoons from childhood.
Alex: Or other TV shows.
Josh: And or other TV shows.
Jacob: Right.
Josh: Dragon Ball Z!
Jacob: Oh come on! I said that!
Alex: yeah, I mean, yeah. It’s a big 1 for us, you know?
Josh: You know, and Again, I think I told you guys earlier-
Alex: It was a soap opera for teenage boys.
Josh: Hey. That’s an offensive way of describing that, but it is correct.
Jacob: It’s pretty accurate.
Josh: I got season 1 of Dragon Ball Z Kai.
Jacob: Yeah.
Josh: So good.
Jacob: I’ve noticed that.
Josh: And I’m so… Oh, yeah.
Jacob: In your prime.
Alex: What makes it Kai, exactly?
Josh: Kai.
Alex: Oh so that’s without all of the filler?
Josh: So the Chinese is gai 改, which is like “modified”, “changed”. And I guess Japanese is kai. So yeah, it means Yeah without filler
Alex: without the filler episodes
Josh: apparently according to Lizzie it goes back more closely to the-
Jacob: You mean nothing but action?
Josh: No, no, no.
Jacob: What are the filler episodes?
Josh: So, there’s- It originally was a manga, a 漫画.
Alex: A manga, yeah.
Josh: And a lot of the TV show went Game of Thrones style and started deviating from the manga and started creating its own storyline. So there’s a bunch of like little story arcs and things that happen that aren’t in the manga and so DBZ Kai cut out anything that wasn’t true to the manga and also kind of reduced a bunch of the recapping.
Alex: So it’s just manga canon.
Josh: Manga canon made for streaming.
Jacob: What saga is it?
Alex: Z. All of it.
Jacob: Okay, all of Z.
Alex: From the beginning to the end. I mean, he got the first season.
Jacob: So the first season is Frieza.
Josh: No. Raditz.
Alex: No, it’s Vegeta. Vegeta.
Jacob: Dragon Ball Z?
Alex: And Raditz, yeah. Raditz.
Josh: Raditz shows up.
Jacob: Oh, I thought that was all the same season. Okay.
Alex: Is it? Oh my gosh.
Josh: There’s no way. There’s only like 30 something episodes in the season.
Jacob: That’s a lot!
Josh: But there’s like 12 episodes of Frieza just going, “oh, how could you?” So yeah, good show. I’m annoyed that my kids don’t appreciate it
Alex: yeah I can’t even understand the attitude
Jacob: I’m I’m certain Henry will Henry I know you’re listening right now. Once I allow him to watch it, once he’s old enough, he’ll love it. I already know.
Josh: I still love it.
Jacob: It’s so good.
Josh: I know. It gave me so much fire. I think I was, the height of that show, once we started watching it as kids is when I discovered dad’s weight bench in the garage and the weird sand-filled weight plates, you know like I wanted to be buff like Goku and so-
Jacob: that’s what did it
Josh: -that’s what started me like lifting in the garage. I failed but uh…
Jacob: I daydream that I’m a Z fighter still.
Alex: well that’s goes to show how important this show was
Jacob: It’s so good! that’s my top cartoon
Josh: yeah I’d say top formative cartoon for me.
Alex: I wish I could watch Dragon Ball Super. I don’t think it’s on Crunchyroll. Because that’s the sequel series to Dragon Ball Z.
Josh: Those guys just started getting too nuts like we’re dudes and we’re gonna fuse and different person
Alex: well that was still in Z
Jacob: Goku turns into a little, he’s a kid-
Josh: What???
Alex: No, that’s GT.
Jacob: Oh, that’s GT?
Alex: Now that was cut it’s not canon anymore.
Jacob: Super is where he goes like monkey Super Saiyan, he’s same size but all furry?
Alex: I think
Jacob: so yeah see that’s still-
Alex: and eventually God Super Saiyan God and he starts fighting gods. It’s called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
Jacob: See that’s so bad.
Josh: Cause Japanese.
Alex: It’s Japanese, yeah.
Jacob: After Dragon Ball, after the Z series, I don’t care too much.
Alex: But he’s blue instead of gold!
Josh: Oh, that’s interesting. Isn’t that a more of a Hindu thing?
Alex: I don’t know. Cause-
Josh: like the Krishna god’s blue
Alex: are like Egyptian. He starts with an Egyptian god.
Josh: Oh, interesting. Well, Yeah. That’s a great show.
Jacob: Oh Yeah.
Alex: Yeah. Yeah. The hairless cat like.
Jacob: Yes. Okay.
Alex: Have you guys ever seen interviews of the voice actors for Vegeta and Goku?
Jacob: No.
Josh: The Japanese original?
Alex: No, no, no, no. No, English. Sorry, the English dub guys.
Josh: Oh, no.
Jacob: Was this you or Lizzie telling us about this recently?
Alex: They are freaking hilarious. They are awesome.
Jacob: They’re like Pip and Mary.
Alex: Yeah. If they don’t have a podcast of their own, they need 1 because they seem like they were, they became pretty good friends being in the recording room together-
Josh: Being Saiyan brothers.
Alex: -screaming. But 1 of them looks like Richard Ayoade. Even with the way he does his hair with that crazy hearted afro. Yeah, they’re hilarious. You gotta look it up.
Josh: Yeah, that sounds good.
Alex: They’re awesome, guys.
Josh: That sounds fun. Lizzie was telling me the Japanese voice, voices are horrible.
Alex: Goku is a woman
Josh: Oh, an actual woman?
Alex: Yeah, it’s an actual woman.
Jacob: Oh that’s why he sounds like that.
Alex: That makes me sound terrible but, it’s just weird.
Josh: Well, you expect a male voice when you’re watching a male character.
Jacob: Especially watching the English version.
Alex: Well it’s Goku! Goku for crying out loud!
Josh: Yeah. That’s an interesting… we’ll have to ask Jared about that.
Jacob: Maybe having a more feminine voice makes him feel more… I mean, he’s like… He typifies honesty and…
Josh: Naivety. Naivety.
Alex: That too, for sure.
Jacob: I mean, lots of good traits and characteristics. That’s Goku. So I think maybe tapping into more feminine voice draws that out.
Alex: I think what happened was she did Goku as a kid.
Jacob: Oh, in Dragon Ball.
Alex: Which is normal even in our cartoons.
Jacob: Bart Simpson.
Alex: That ladies do younger boys.
Josh: Like the Rugrats.
Alex: And then they just kept her on. Yeah, right. And then they kept her on.
Jacob: Familiar voice. That you grew up with.
Alex: I think is what I’ve heard. Yeah. And there’s a video game that’s even on the Switch, though I don’t imagine the performance is particularly good on the Switch. I think it’s called Dragon Ball Kakarot. I mean, there’s a crap load of Dragon Ball games.
Jacob: Is this the free- the open world one?
Alex: Yeah. And you go through the Z saga the whole thing in that game RPG style Where like it’s really it’s it’s open world story heavy, but you know you get little side quests that weren’t necessarily in the show to grind your strength and stuff and-
Josh: I thought I played it on game pass it was just a just like a Mortal Kombat fighter
Jacob: must have been a different one
Alex: that would have been a different game.
Jacob: they do have a bunch of those too
Alex: there’s a ton of different Dragon Ball series of games that are all about fighting only. I can’t even count how many series of games they have but Dragon Ball Kakarot is specifically the story of the Z-Saga.
Josh: I like how this segment was gonna be favorite shows and it’s actually just the Dragon Ball Z segment.
Jacob: I was just gonna say, well this segment turned into Dragon Ball Z.
Alex: Well there’s a demo on the Switch if you wanna try it out. And actually, the performance wasn’t so bad. But the boss fight, fighting Raditz, I couldn’t do it. It was too hard. But that’s cause I couldn’t grind levels in the demo.
Jacob: Right it was just a demo. Level up enough.
Josh: I just remember being so heartbroken at Gohan, how Gohan turned out.
Jacob: Yeah, that’s true.
Josh: And I’m like, dude.
Jacob: What name moniker did he end up going by?
Alex: Saiya Man.
Josh: Saiya Man.
Alex: But again, that’s in GT, which is not canon…
Jacob: No… Bu?
Josh: Yeah, that’s Majin Bu Saga.
Alex: Oh crap, you’re right. Well, they continue that story in GT and I guess I forgot. They build him up to be like Goku-
Jacob: greater than Goku!
Alex: -squared.
Jacob: I mean, one-handed taking down Cell. Come on.
Josh: They must have just decided like, no, we can’t do Goku the dirty. He’s just gotta keep being the best.
Jacob: That’s how father-son stories are supposed to go.
Josh: I know.
Jacob: But I mean I will admit Goku is my favorite anyway
Josh: It couldn’t have happened to a better guy though. Goku is my favorite. Good show.
Jacob: Okay, moving on from Dragon Ball.
Josh: Alright, my next show was Darkwing Duck.
Alex: Oh my gosh, yes. This is why I can’t pick 1.
Josh: I know.
Alex: There’s so many. We grew up with so many good cartoons.
Josh: And I love ducks. I think it’s because of the Oregon Ducks.
Jacob: Oh you did always draw ducks!
Josh: I did. I think I started with the Oregon Ducks, and then I started drawing the Looney Tunes duck characters
Jacob: constantly.
Alex: With that S thing with the…
Josh: Oh, that was later, yeah.
Alex: Well, I think you made the head the S, and then the bill came out.
Josh: Well, because I noticed the eyes when I was drawing the eyes. The order in which I was drawing the head the last component was the hairdo. And I was just looking at the eyes 1 day and I think this is when max and I had started like branding- I might have created it- I can’t remember if Max was involved, I had this like “Shadow Publishing” or something. And I was looking at the eyes and like, wait a minute, the lines between the eyes makes the bottom of an S. So I did that, what do they call that S?
Alex: I have no idea man.
Jacob: Who knows
Josh: Superman S or something
Alex: But we used it in our hand drawn, Another Brother, what do you call it?
Jacob: Oh yeah, it is on there.
Josh: Banner:
Alex: The full version of it, which I’m not sure is visible anywhere yet.
Jacob: I’ll have to check that.
Alex: It does have 1 of those in it somewhere.
Jacob: Remember, you’d even put the hat on him in some drawings. As Darkwing Duck.
Alex: And you used Shad as a name in video games.
Josh: Oh my gosh.
Alex: During that same period of time.
Jacob: I don’t remember that
Josh: So Shad was the name I gave to Simba. I started drawing Simba heads.
Alex: What?
Jacob: What?
Josh: Yeah. And I named him Shad.
Alex: I can’t say I remember that.
Jacob: I don’t even know what’s going on anymore.
Josh: Yeah, that’s a deviation, but anyway. I really like ducks and I liked all the shows that had ducks in them.
Alex: Darkwing Duck
Josh: and that was the best
Alex: was bomb
Jacob: that’s not 1 I think I watched
Josh: oh it was like it was a it was a take on the Batman the shadow like those types of dark grungy superheroes.
Alex: Yeah. But goofy because it was a Donald Duck type duck.
Josh: Loved it.
Alex: But it wasn’t quite Donald. He was a little more serious than that.
Jacob: A little more edgy.
Josh: I think they’re rebooting it. Seth Rogen for Disney.
Alex: Okay I hope Seth can pull that 1 out. He seems to be doing okay by the Ninja Turtles movie that’s coming out. That seems to be like it’s gonna be okay.
Josh: I’m not going to watch it.
Alex: I don’t know that I will in theaters but I’ll probably watch it eventually because they were 1 of my formative cartoons growing up for sure.
Jacob: It’s a cool art style too.
Alex: Yeah it is. Darkwing Duck. He had that sweet plane which for me was always big for any kind of character or hero if he had a plane it was like, “Oh Yeah!”
Josh: yeah what’s your mode of transportation??
Jacob: a duck in a plane!
Josh: which is probably why that’s the first thing billionaires buy is a g6 or something. gotta get their plane.
Alex: there’s all but there was also that side character that I do not remember the name of who would whenever he said blathering blatherskite this crazy armor would fly onto him and he would wheel around on a single wheel
Josh: yes!
Jacob: Oh!
Alex: he was like part Iron Man part Robo Cop
Josh: was that Quack McDuck? I think that-
Alex: mmm no that might be a character from Tail Spin
Josh: I think it’s the same I think he’s the only like character that’s been in multiple shows
Jacob: I didn’t I thought that I thought he was just a robot and he was always like that I didn’t know it was a suit
Alex: yeah very Iron Man-ey but but in appearance more Robo Cop
Jacob: And he had like an antenna on his head. Yeah and a visor like Robo Cop over his eyes. Yes. okay. That guy was cool. I remember that.
Alex: Yeah, but but that led into eventually like the Mighty Ducks Series which was like-
Jacob: I forgot about that cartoon series.
Alex: -they were hockey players, but they were also superheroes
Josh: Wait, what??
Alex: oh but they were aliens
Josh: Okay, we’re not-
Alex: pretty sure
Josh: we’re not talking about the movies…
Alex: no no no this is again Disney duck-based superheroes
Jacob: It was an animated series
Josh: Okay how did I not know about this?
Alex: I’m sure you did.
Josh: It’s checking all the boxes.
Alex: Yeah I think they had like a mothership that was like a like a duck bill shaped goalie mask.
Jacob: Yeah like their logo.
Josh: Okay that I can see it in my mind
Alex: it didn’t last for very long I don’t think it was very successful.
Josh: Even Darkwing Duck was only like 2 years. 2 seasons.
Alex: Was it really? Oh, that 1 was So good to me though.
Jacob: Are these on Disney plus I wonder.
Alex: Darkwing Duck is.
Josh: oh if they are…
Jacob: It is?
Alex: It is.
Jacob: nice
Alex: I’m pretty sure. Gargoyles?
Josh: Gargoyles was cool.
Jacob: yes. we’ve watched that with the boys and they like it.
Josh: Really?
Alex: That was way better than a children’s cartoon had any reason to be.
Jacob: Oh man, Goliath. The voice actor does Goliath. So good.
Josh: I’d have to watch it again. I did like that show that was 1 of those other dark grungy, like should I be watching this mom and dad?
Jacob: It was a very 90s cartoon
Alex: the 90s Batman was epic
Jacob: But you loved Batman Beyond too.
Alex: I did, for sure.
Josh: Batman Beyond was with the kid Batman?
Jacob: Teenage.
Josh: Teenager Batman?
Alex: Bruce is old and not really walking around so great no more and he passes on the mantle.
Jacob: Terry. Terry-something.
Alex: Yeah. And he was voiced by the guy that played Eric in Boy Meets World
Josh: oh
Jacob: Oh wow
Alex: yeah
Josh: Kyle.
Jacob: And Ron in Kim Possible.
Alex: Who is also hilarious
Jacob: I’ve got a few more rapid-fire ones
Alex: go
Jacob: Street Sharks, Biker Mice from Mars, Swat Cats
Alex: Swat Cats! Ohhh! That theme song. Oh my gosh.
Josh: Those guys are rad.
Jacob: Yeah. Alright, show notes. We gotta put that in show notes.
Josh: Yeah. Man, they don’t make cartoons like this anymore.
Alex: They don’t.
Jacob: No, they don’t.
Josh: It was because you had Saturday night cartoons.
Jacob: Saturday morning?
Josh: Saturday morning cartoons.
Alex: Right.
Josh: Adult Swim later for Saturday night cartoons.
Jacob: Live TV used to be a thing.
Josh: Yeah and it was great and you could count on a certain percentage of children in America tuning in to watch these shows, making you money so they produced good good cartoons.
Alex: Yeah for the most part some of them were not. I’ve got 1 in mind right now.
Josh: Go, what?
Alex: Doug.
Jacob: You didn’t like Doug?
Josh: I liked Doug.
Alex: Doug started on Nickelodeon and was excellent, and was a formative cartoon for me. Not always in a good way, but mostly. But then they canceled it, Disney bought it, and turned it into a Saturday morning cartoon and it sucked forever after.
Jacob: Yes. It did, it’s true. It was like when Gennady Tartakovsky.
Alex: Genddy Tartakovsky.
Josh: Oh Dexter’s Lab?
Jacob: Dexter’s Lab. When he stopped working on Dexter’s Lab, it just fell into a pile of garbage.
Alex: Yep, same with Sponge Bob.
Jacob: Sponge Bob, yeah. Dexter’s lab is my number 2.
Alex: Dexter’s lab is excellent.
Josh: That was so good.
Jacob: So good.
Josh: I, yeah, I loved Mandark.
Alex: Yes. Mandark was so good.
Josh: Most least understood character. Poor Mandark.
Jacob: So ridiculous.
Josh: And they had, what was the crossover show they’d do within the show with the monkey?
Alex: Oh yeah.
Jacob: And the heroes. Monkey, I mean the monkey’s name was Monkey.
Alex: It was it was just Monkey.
Josh: Did the Powerpuff Girls come out of Dexter’s Lab?
Alex: They came first.
Jacob: Yeah, they were completely separate.
Josh: Oh they were before Dexter’s Lab.
Alex: Powerpuff Girls were first.
Jacob: People make fun of it sometimes because it’s a quote unquote girl show, but Powerpuff Girls was good too. Mojo Jojo. Good guy.
Alex: I grew up with a little too much machismo and I felt a need to feel that way When liking Powerpuff Girls, but, it was just a good cartoon.
Jacob: It was.
Josh: That’s when you just lean into Buttercup. “Yeah! I like Buttercup!” “Buttercup’s the best!”
Alex: “She’ll kick your butt!”
Jacob: Somehow just saying that out loud though. “Buttercup’s my favorite Powerpuff Girl”.
Josh: I mean, no-
Jacob: I mean it’s not My Little Ponies, so. No offense to all you Bronies out there.
Josh: All of you bronies.
Alex: Right. For me, Tail Spin. Was hugely formative. Like, I fell in love with aeronautics in my youth because of that cartoon for sure
Josh: yeah that’s when I decided planes are really cool yeah and surf I don’t know what you’d call it. The, yeah, the dude had the younger…
Alex: Kit Cloud Kicker. Had his little metal croissant that we talked about before
Josh: Croissant board.
Alex: And he was, yeah, like…
Josh: Toed behind the plane.
Alex: Cloud kicking. He was cloud kicking.
Josh: Cloud kicking.
Jacob: I forgot about that.
Josh: Those were, I mean, you guys, I think you’ve pretty much nailed all of the cartoons that I thought of
Jacob: Especially Street Sharks-
Josh: Street Sharks I forgot about.
Alex: I did too.
Josh: That one was great.
Jacob: -Like I could feel that. I had a little hand puppet that I would play with, maybe 2, that I would play in the tub with.
Josh: Street Sharks.
Jacob: Street Sharks
Alex: Well, let me take it back even further then.
Josh: I know what you’re thinking.
Alex: Because I’m a lot older.
Josh: I know what you got.
Alex: Sometimes I’m a lot older. Do you? well let me hear it?
Jacob: ready, 3-2-1, Go!
Josh: Thundercats!
Alex: Thundercats was good. I I tried to say the thing-
Jacob: Oh I know!
Alex: -but I couldn’t.
Jacob: Voltron!
Alex: Voltron.
Josh: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alex: I remember like just stumbling across Voltron one, one morning sometime when I was like 7 or something and then I didn’t know what it was called so I couldn’t find it again and then 1 Christmas like 8 or 9 years old they after doing the original Because that was the only version at that point in time. The original The Grinch Stole Christmas. They had a Voltron marathon all day and I was like-
Jacob: This is it!
Alex: This is like Christmas!
Josh: This is what I’ve been needing! Netflix’s reboot of that.
Alex: Oh my gosh.
Josh: Amazing!
Alex: It is so good.
Jacob: Oh is it?
Alex: Oh yeah.
Josh: Dude, they nail it.
Jacob: I watched a couple episodes.
Alex: Not a kid’s cartoon anymore, though.
Jacob: I don’t know. It didn’t…
Alex: Not that it’s inappropriate for kids, but… really??
Josh: The soundtrack?
Jacob: I didn’t get into it.
Josh: The sound engineering is just…
Alex: It’s a little slow. I’ll give it that.
Jacob: Yeah. Maybe that’s what it was.
Alex: The first season starts out slow for sure. But it goes beyond what I think the original cartoon did with like story arc and lore and everything. It’s big.
Josh: Here’s a controversial one that flopped for me. He-Man, Castle Grayskull.
Jacob: Are you talking, oh sorry, the original or this reboot on Netflix?
Alex: you’re talking about the original.
Josh: yeah, the original.
Jacob: yeah, I would only Rarely watch that one.
Alex: I liked it. Definitely did.
Jacob: I think I did too, but it wasn’t like a go-to. I was happy when it was on but you know, I wouldn’t seek it.
Alex: But that reminded me of another cartoon that was on really early in the morning. I don’t know that you guys would have ever seen it because I watched it before going to super early morning seminary.
Josh: I never got up early enough to watch TV before seminary. That’s insane.
Jacob: Oh, I would just flip it on while I ate cereal.
Alex: Yeah, right, exactly. I was eating some toast and it would be on. I can’t remember exactly what it was called. It might’ve been, it wasn’t Mad Max because that’s a movie. But the character’s name was Max and he had his own little Polly Pocket line of toys.
Jacob: I know this!
Josh: Oh, I remember the toys. Because you had one!
Alex: Right, because of the cartoon.
Jacob: Yeah, I watched this. What was that called?
Josh: Crud, what was it?
Alex: I liked it because he had a not not exactly anthropomorphic but his like mentor was an owl just like in Ocarina of Time you’ve got the big owl giving you hints and secrets here and there
Josh: Dang, what was that show?!
Alex: max- I’m sure it had max in it
Jacob: yeah I can’t remember, but-
Josh: Polley Pocket, we remember Polly pocket, but we don’t remember Max’s Polley Pocket
Jacob: Hey Polley was a lot bigger than Max. Let’s be real. I’m glad you brought up Thundercats though because-
Alex: classic
Jacob: -those are yeah, those are like definite memories from Grandma’s house
Alex: also been re-made now
Josh: Grandma Robinson’s house?
Jacob: Yeah that was the only place I ever watched it. She had it on VHS and we would just go downstairs and pop it in and watch Thundercats.
Josh: I think that’s where I first saw SWAT Cats too, maybe. Does that Ring a bell?
Jacob: No, but that’s okay.
Alex: I definitely watched that at home. Not that I didn’t watch it at Grandma’s, but…
Josh: Yeah, SWAT cats. And then you’d watch it and then you’d be done, then you’d take the tape out- for my children. So, you used to have these things called VHS tapes that were magnetic tapes that you had a- and then you’d take it out and you’d put it in the race car rewinder
Alex: yeah the red race car
Josh: to rewind the tape
Jacob: I guarantee she still has that VHS in the same cabinet still
Josh: yeah
Alex: yeah most likely.
Josh: Those were good memories.
Jacob: Yeah.
Josh: AHa ha ha ha
Alex: ha ha ha ha ha.
Jacob: No, that’s the story!
[00:22:55] Stewnerds!
[00:23:02] Storytime Segment
Soundbyte: Hey kids, do you know what time it is? Story time!
Jacob: Okay, this is my first track story. There will be more to come.
Josh: Track and field track.
Jacob: Yes, thank you. And ironically, it’s not even, it’s not a running story. Okay. So junior year, I qualified for the state championship in the Open 400 and on the 400×400. In Oregon, the state championship is 3 days long, down in Eugene, which is about an hour and a half south of Keizer. So we stayed overnight, 2 nights in a hotel. And it was like a blast. It’s so much fun. There were – they had traditions of what the coaches would do with the kids when they were down in Eugene. I bombed the 400. It sucked. It was not a good race. And then the 400×400 didn’t go – so that was day 1. Day 2, I was like, all right, just get out of my head, get prepped for the 400×400. I think we placed ninth in the prelims, maybe tenth. So we were either 1 or 2 spots off of qualifying for the finals. As the anchor, stupid, but as the anchor I was like it’s my fault we didn’t get to finals because I didn’t anchor the team I didn’t get us there.
Josh: When really it was the second leg. Gosh. That guy.
Jacob: We have to go to athletic.net and see who it was. Shane, I think Shane was probably like 2. Anyway, so you know, like I had a complete like mental breakdown, like it sucked. I spent probably 20 minutes walking around the warmup cool down track, crying. Like I was burnt out. I didn’t run the entire summer after that just because it was… Wait, no, that’s not true. That’s the same summer I went to the BYU track camp. Anyway, I was burnt out, just mentally done, pretty crappy, neat, not feeling very good.
Alex: Is that a normal attitude for anchors?
Josh: Yeah
Jacob: Yeah
Alex: Carrying a little extra responsibility?
Josh: Yeah
Jacob: Definitely
Josh: You’re the fast- you’re usually the fastest on the team too
Alex: and you’re the fastest…
Jacob: and you’re the last Obviously you’re obviously the last one with the baton, last one to cross the line. So you have the potential to make anything happen.
Alex: Sure
Jacob: right?
Josh: You do, no I mean-
Alex: I guess, but there are certain things that are gonna be outside of your control if your team doesn’t-
Jacob: Sure
Josh: but you never see a crazy first, second, or third leg, maybe third leg to an extent, but you never see a first and second leg that just like blows the other runners out of the water. They’re usually like pretty standard rotation around the track, but the last 2 guys, there’s just that extra adrenaline, that extra surge, like crazy stuff happens in those last legs
Jacob: Yeah, coaches will often stack it in that way. so that night after the 400 x 400 we it was actually it’s a really good night after that crappy 400×400. We went to see Spider-Man… Can’t remember which 1. Maybe Spider-Man 2 with Tobey Maguire.
Alex: With Tobey Maguire? Nice.
Josh: Really dating yourself now.
Jacob: Oh, man. And then we went out to Chili’s for dinner. I had a big old plate of
Alex: Man, Chili’s, I haven’t been there forever
Jacob: Feticini no no sorry chicken Alfredo wait what the heck What am I trying to say?
Alex: Chicken Alfredo, yeah? Fettuccine Alfredo.
Jacob: Fettuccine Chicken Alfredo, yeah.
Alex: There we go. With chicken, yeah.
Jacob: Nice and creamy and heavy sitting in your stomach and filling you up with the chicken. After Chili’s, we went to, I think it was called the Pearl Street Creamery in Eugene. This was the tradition. Every year for State, during that three-day trip, they would go to this creamery, this parlor, ice cream parlor, and they have a dish that’s called the pig’s trough. 2 big old scoops of chocolate ice cream, 2 of vanilla, I think 2 of strawberry, 2 full bananas, you know, cherries, well maybe not cherries, I don’t like cherries, I don’t remember cherries, I take that 1 back, whipped cream, pineapple, nuts, maybe 1 or 2 other toppings, and it’s served in a pig’s trough. It’s literally this big metal dish and it sits in this wooden trough and they serve it to you that way.
Alex: Do you get a spoon?
Jacob: Yeah.
Josh: Most people order this and share it as a group.
Jacob: Yeah. But so what we do, whoever wants to, you each get 1 and it’s an eating competition and they keep track of time. They, They time you every time and every year, every season, they keep record of that time.
Alex: Just like any of your other times.
Jacob: Oh yeah, yeah, right. State championship, obviously super competitive kids there. The coaches are super, so the coaches do it too. Our coaches were super competitive, they were awesome. We had so fun.
Alex: This is a cool way to blow off steam without really changing the dynamic a whole lot.
Jacob: Absolutely. And as a teenager, like even if you had to compete the next day, most teenagers would be fine eating that and then running the next day. I think I say that, but I think the people who competed Saturday didn’t enter the pig’s trough.
Alex: Probably for the best.
Jacob: Probably. Yeah, our coaching staff was so good. They were awesome. That’s, yeah, you’ll see from other stories I have in the future. So, as I’m going into the bathroom, Coach Scott, Scott’s coming out of the bathroom.
Josh: Wait, wait, wait, rewind. Have you eaten the pig’s trough?
Jacob: No, no, no, no, sorry.
Alex: Okay, alright, a good question, very important.
Jacob: So we’ve gone to the ice cream parlor. Yeah, I know. I jumped a little bit. I obviously entered the competition, but before we started, before we even ordered, I obviously needed to get some space,
Alex: make some space, gross
Jacob: I go to the restroom. As I’m entering the restroom, Coach Scott, Scott’s coming out of the bathroom and he says, hey Stew, I’ll give you a pointer. I’ll give you this tip, I won’t tell anyone else. Try to put the bananas down early on Most people put them off Later and once you’ve eaten that much ice cream, you’re not gonna be able to eat the bananas
Alex: I can see how that would work But ice cream can you can usually pack it down.
Jacob: Yep It’s like alright. Thanks Scott Okay, so come out of the restroom. We’re all there, we’ve all ordered, we all have our pigs troughs, pig troughs in front of us. Let me preface this by saying, I’m 5 foot 6 in high school. Junior year, I probably weighed around 130 pounds, maybe a little less. So I was by far the smallest guy there. And previous people who had eaten this include who was the current record holder, a 6′ 9″ high jumper he ate it in like oh something like 536 5 minutes 36 seconds we’ve had throwers who who’ve made it to state before who ate it Phil again the high jumper he he beat Taylor I think was his name the previous record holder he was a big guy javelin thrower.
Josh: Yeah.
Jacob: Kacey.
Josh: Kacey though.
Jacob: Kacey-
Josh: Yeah he did it. Yeah he was there. I… observed him.
Jacob: Kacey- actually Kacey would be a fun person to bring on sometime. Kacey was in a wheelchair. He had a racing chair. Kacey was a big guy. He didn’t have his… Yeah, Josh, go.
Josh: So, he got hit by a semi-truck when he was 6 years old. His legs got severed right below the hip joint. And he wrestled. His wrestling weight… He didn’t have to cut weight, obviously, at all, he kind of already cut weight!
Jacob: ahhhh Josh….
Josh: He’d love that joke!
Jacob: That’s true he would!
Josh: He does stand up.
Jacob: This was the kind of kid he’d get on the cross country bus after a cross country race. And right as the driver’s leaving, he’ll yell “My shoes! My shoes! I forgot my shoes!”. Kid’s got no legs.
Josh: every- Alex laughs. Every race, Alex. It was so horrible. But every driver would fall for it. Yeah, yeah. So, his wrestling weight, sans legs, was 105 pounds.
Alex: Which is his only weight. Is the one with sans legs.
Josh: He was a 105 pound torso. Huge.
Jacob: So he had the frame of a six-foot-three guy, wrestler, football player
Alex: core strength just up to wazoo well that’s not how core strength works that’s not where it goes
Jacob: so he had and he ate like a machine and that kid yeah he would put food down anyway all I’m saying is he had eaten the pig’s trough, he wasn’t the record holder. Big old throwers had eaten it, they weren’t the record holders. 6 foot 9 high jumper, he was the record holder. Okay, so we get in…
Alex: So you’re trying to put some kind of importance on height being important for the record, right?
Josh: Well he’s scrawny. Jumpers are scrawny too. was this guy thin?
Jacob: He was a thin guy.
Josh: It’s a, I wouldn’t expect it.
Alex: All right, all right, all right.
Jacob: Okay, back to current time. Me eating it. I think all the other guys, almost all the other guys were doing it too. Coach Scott was doing it. Stinson wasn’t doing it. Walker was doing it. Anyway, so we’ve got a couple coaches in there. You know, all the guys are all like talking smack about winning and eating faster and better and I’m just sitting there, you know, the small shrimpy guy just sitting there quietly, just excited to eat ice cream.
Josh: That the coaches pay for.
Jacob: Yeah, yeah. They call out. So they get the stopwatch ready, right? Cause every coach there has a stopwatch there. Just makes sense. And we go, we start going. I start shoveling like as fast as I can.
Alex: Do you go for the bananas?
Jacob: I absolutely followed Scott’s advice. I, yeah, I think early on I took a bite of banana with every single scoop. So I had banana and ice cream on initially with every spoonful. So I did put the banana down pretty early. I definitely ended with only having to eat ice cream. So yeah I’m just, I’m shoveling like as fast as I can head down. Like I’m not even looking around. I’m not seeing how anyone is doing.
Josh: Jacob means business.
Alex: but what’s his pace? He doesn’t know!
Jacob: Exactly. But Hey, I mean, it’s the same thing when you’re, when you’re on the track, you see people do it all the time, but you do not look backwards. Looking backwards is moving the center of your mass away from
Josh: the goal!
Jacob: away from the finish line. You’re diverting your energy somewhere else. You’re slowing yourself down by looking backwards.
Alex: This is a sprint. Just sprint.
Jacob: Well, same when it comes to ice cream eating.
Josh: You’d think it’d be a distance event
Jacob: No, it was definitely a distance.
Alex: Can you pick this thing up or is it too big?
Jacob: I’ll show you pictures. We’ll put pictures on the show.
Alex: But tell me now.
Jacob: Yeah, yeah, you can well-
Alex: I mean, I’m just I I can picture it But like would you be able to pick it up and like drink what’s left if you needed to?
Jacob: Yeah
Alex: or would you have to shovel?
Jacob: So the dish is about yay big.
Alex: Okay. All right. All right. No more than a foot long.
Josh: About a foot long.
Jacob: Yeah, maybe about a foot long. But remember, 2 full bananas. They didn’t half a banana.
Alex: Not a banana split. Double banana.
Josh: Yeah, none of that weak stuff.
Soundbyte: Hey, brothers. Jacob asked for an editor’s note here. After recording the episode, we took a look at Jacob’s pictures. The 2 bananas were in fact halved. They were placed end to end so that the trough is 2 bananas length long. It was definitely more than 6 scoops of ice cream. So it’s definitely bigger than we said here in the episode. It’s pretty crazy how big it is. Go check out the pictures in the show notes on our website.
Jacob: So yeah, I’m going in early on the bananas, make sure to put that down, because bananas are obviously way heavier than ice cream. Man, about 2 thirds of the way in, I’d say, my hand starts shaking.
Alex: Oh boy!
Jacob: Like, it is shaking the whole time I’m shoveling and shoving into my mouth.
Josh: out of fatigue, out of sugar rush, adrenaline?
Alex: Fullness?
Jacob: Probably all of the above. The speed with which I’m going, how, because chicken Alfredo.
Josh: Oh yeah.
Jacob: At Chili’s immediately before us.
Josh: Oh gross
Jacob: I’m feeling pretty good. Like I know I’m flying.
Alex: But how full do you feel?
Jacob: Oh yeah. Okay. My stomach was huge.
Josh: That’s the feeling of self-deception, my friend.
Jacob: You know, at this point, I don’t know if I’m in the lead, but I know I’m doing pretty well. I think I’ve got a good shot at probably hitting the podium, right? Top 3 is what I’m thinking and expecting. And then all of a sudden, all of the girls who aren’t eating, they start cheering Scott. Scott, Scott, Scott, Scott. And maybe I just had selective hearing and That’s all I could hear. Maybe someone was chearing my name too. I don’t know.
Alex: This is the coach?
Jacob: Yes, yeah. Coach Scott.
Josh: Distance runner. Also super tall. Also super thin.
Jacob: Yeah, he was over 6 foot as well. And if you listen, Scott, he was a hurdler.
Josh: Oh yeah, my bad. Sorry.
Jacob: I just had to, for the record So like that’s what like really told me like, all right It’s time.
Alex: Final leg!
Jacob: I might be shaking but I’m putting this down cuz like if they’re cheering I I knew how much I had left I didn’t have a lot left and if they’re cheering his name he must be close to finishing so yeah it’s my final kick I’m on the home straight away I’m putting this ice cream down and I did I from that point it was probably like 30 seconds left and I was done I finished threw my spoon down stood up finally lifting my head off the ice cream and I did it I was the first like Scott still had ice cream left in there everyone else not even close to the 2 of us. So remember the record 6 foot 9 guy was something like 5m 36s. I put it down in just under 4 minutes.
Josh: Oh my gosh.
Jacob: Over a minute and a half improved.
Alex: Do you know, is that still the record?
Jacob: I can guarantee you that’s still the record because I went back to state my senior year and the ice cream parlor was closed. So I finished with the record. Sub 4, and it was just so fitting because you know like.
Alex: It’s like breaking a 4 minute mile.
Jacob: Exactly, in track and field-
Josh: No one knew it could be done!
Jacob: I am the Roger Bannister of ice cream. It really did, it just felt so fitting for all of you non-track people, like the 4 minute mile, like that’s 1 of just the classic barriers of running. If you can get a mile in under 4 minutes, you’re a phenomenal distance runner. And it’s a mile.
Josh: Everyone thought the human body was not physically capable of running faster than a 4 minute mile.
Jacob: Scientists literally thought the human heart would give up and you would die if you ran a mile in 4 minutes or less.
Josh: And Jacob did it!
Alex: And now they know that the stomach won’t explode! when you-
Jacob: Yep, you can do that much ice cream that quickly, as it turns out. Man, it was a true redemption story for me. That state meat sucked, and then the pig’s trough was so awesome.
Alex: it’s too bad there’s not a trophy.
Jacob: I’ve got a ribbon.
Alex: Nice.
Jacob: But everyone who completes it gets a ribbon. So.
Alex: Oh. Bummer.
Josh: It’s hard to complete though.
Alex: I’m sure.
Josh: That’s a pretty big deal.
Jacob: There were some who didn’t finish it. I think that was you Andy.
Alex: Was it a blue ribbon?
Jacob: Oh, that would have been good.
Alex: Like you’re a county fair winning prize pig?
Jacob: Yeah, blue is the… number one position ribbon.
Josh: They should let you bring your trough home with you.
Jacob: Nah, they lose way too much money on that. Oh, and then Scott finished up like a minute after me, I think. So I beat him, I think, by a whole minute. So he would have even beaten the old record by 30 seconds. It was a record year. If they hadn’t been cheering for him, who knows what I would have done.
Josh: My question is, how much pain were you in after all the adrenaline left?
Alex: Any projectile vomiting?
Jacob: No, no, I kept it all down, man.
Josh: On top of the fettuccine.
Jacob: It was an absolute sugar rush. I was like tingly and shaky after that. Not just from being so full, but from consuming all that cold sugar that quickly. It was just doing all kinds of weird things.
Alex: Probably some adrenaline.
Jacob: Yeah, there’s def- absolutely adrenaline. That was a race. That was very comparable to what I would have gone through for a race. My button definitely came undone. I couldn’t keep the button buttoned in my pants. Too full for that. One of my greatest sporting achievements. It’s not my only record that’s still at McNary, but that is a story for later. It just makes me so giddy and happy every time I think about it. It’s just so ridiculous and unlikely.
Alex: It’s too bad that place is closed.
Jacob: It is.
Alex: Because I mean they should they should have made it an in-house event too. and like got some commentating.
Jacob: So it was really funny there were like 2 instances after that point where like-
Alex: I mean it was in Eugene right yeah it’s like the center of Oregon track and field uh-huh because of Nike and the University so like
Jacob: track town USA
Alex: why wouldn’t they have done something crazy with that?
Jacob: there’s there’s a pizzeria track down pizza mmm heard of it I think is what they call is what their name is yeah there’s like there are 2 instances after 1 was at Dairy Queen where a couple of us got Sundays and another was that Mongolian grill, is that what its called?
Alex: Chang’s
Josh: Chang’s
Jacob: Chang’s Mongolian Grill Where we got soft serve and there’s 1 of the guys specifically who must have thought it was like a fluke somehow or something, or maybe he was just being funny. He was like, all right, dude, we both got 2 like complete full bowls of soft serve ice cream. Okay, man, ready? I’m gonna take you down this time. But no, I’m like
Alex: Not even close.
Jacob: No, not even close. He had like half of his soft serve left by the time I was done.
Alex: Sounds to me like we might need to have our own ice cream.
Josh: Oh, no. I need non-dairy ice cream.
Alex: I don’t know if that can be-
Jacob: Different textures. I don’t know if that would count
Josh: Dude I’m so lactose I’m so lactose sensitive now
Jacob: take a pill man
Alex: are you really?
Josh: yeah I don’t drink milk or anything it’s been forever so like that really hits my gut
Alex: dang
Jacob: well dad would want to do an in endurance eating competition rather than speed. He said I don’t think I could beat how fast you ate it, but I think I could eat more than you. Which is probably true. Dad could probably eat more ice cream.
Alex: Just who can put-
Josh: just quarts of ice cream and just count how many you clear.
Alex: We’ll do a hot ones challenge. We can get their flight of sauces
Josh: oh really?
Alex: yeah you can buy the whole flight
Jacob: wait this is so different than eating ice cream how do we-
Josh: I’d need cauliflower.
Alex: I think we would just have to see who can go the furthest down the line of sauces. Like who can make it to the hottest sauce.
Jacob: Not me. That’s not ice cream.
Josh: Yeah, we’ve been talking about ice cream.
Jacob: Yeah, how’d you jump from ice cream eating to-
Alex: eating competitions!
Josh: Oh pig’s trough, he was thinking pork.
Alex: What? What does that have to do with chicken wings??
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